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09 August 2005 @ 12:49 am
Oh, the Geeky Things I Do...  
So - just to get this out of the way before I start this entry - I am very aware of how huge of a dork I am. I just can't help it. That being said, let me share with you the brainstorming I've been doing the past several days.

Since I finished reading Harry Potter 6, I've been thinking about what a magic school in America would be like. After all, she talks about schools in Europe, but makes no mention of US schools, and you've got to figure that with all the people in America some of them are bound to be witches and wizards. I've actually been thinking about this for a while, and I think Robin and/or Katie have talked about it with me. Anyway, I've been writing down my ideas on how I think an American school would work, and this is what I've come up with so far.


Brainstorming - American School of Magic

Things to consider-
-What would the name(s) be?
-Where would the school(s) be located?
-Which state(s)?
-Rural, City, or Suburban location?
-What would the uniforms look like?
-How would the teaching be structured?
-Which grade levels?
-Which subjects?
-How will the students be separated?
-Houses, majors, grade level?
-separation of lower grades from higher grades?
-School colors?
-School emblem/insignia/logo?
-One school, or several? How many?
-If houses…
-How many?
-Names?
-How were they formed? Their history?
-At which point do the students join the houses?
-How do the students join the houses?
-If majors…
-What majors?
-How do the students decide their major?
-When do the students decide their major?
-Can you switch?
-What are the school rules and regulations?
-How much is tuition? Or would it be free?

Those are all the questions I can think of right now, and these are the answers I've come up with to my own questions...

The way I see it, an American school of magic would be set up kind of like our college system. Students would have majors or concentrations to choose from, and in deciding to choose a major they would determine what they’d like their education to be focused around. Naturally, their major would be the main focus of their studies, but they would also be required to take a minimum number of classes in various other fields of magic (kind of like general education in liberal arts colleges). This would ensure a rounded education and help to avoid ignorance among students.

Hogwarts has 7 years of schooling, but Britain also has different laws and views about maturity. By British standards, an individual becomes an adult at the age of 18, whereas here in America adulthood is considered to be age 21. Therefore, I feel the magic communities in each country would differ on their views. In American wizarding society, adulthood would be reached at 18, therefore the end of their education at an American school would be the age of 18. Americans wouldn’t want their children to start later than British children, though, so the start of their education would still be age 11. So the way I see it, there would be 8 years of education (age 11 to 18). Within these 8 years, it would be divided into a sort of underclassmen/upperclassmen system. Students wouldn’t be expected to choose their majors right away, so the first two years of their education would be without a major. By the end of the two years, they are required to choose a major. To help out with this decision, there would be a tournament of sorts where the students would compete in various games and activities to determine what their strengths and weaknesses are. How they do in the tournament, as well as which major they are personally drawn to, will determine which major they end up choosing.

The housing of the students would be separated into buildings for each major (each major gets their own dormitory). Since the first and second years don’t have a major, they live in their own dormitory (both years together). The first and second year dormitory would be under the control of third year students (they would be the RAs/prefects). This system would be made for a few reasons. First, the third years would have the least amount of work to complete out of the other upper-level grade levels, so they would have more time to put towards helping out the first and second years. Second, the third years are closer in age to the first and second years, and thus would create a closer connection to them. It would be easier for the first and second years to approach a third year student. Also, since the third years only just chose a major, they could give a lot of insight and advice on how to spend your first two years at the school, how to go about choosing your major, and first-hand advice on what to expect in the tournament at the end of your second year. RA duty would be voluntary, and not all third years would be required to do so. If no third years come forward to volunteer for RA duty, then RAs will be chosen by the Dean.

Regarding the majors, I feel that the breakdown of students shouldn’t be as detailed as very specific majors. There would be larger departments, and I believe that students would be divided by these. Then, within the departments, they can choose a more specific path. For example, at Emerson, students may choose New Media as a concentration, but within New Media they have many options for what to do: motion graphics, animation, web design, digital photography, etc. So here’s a list of the departments, with their different majors, that I can think of (note: this is just a preliminary list. It is by no means set in stone, and will surely be added to or subtracted from as time goes on):

Cordimancy (also referred to as Chaos Magic)

The school of emotional magic. This form of magic is based off of channeling raw emotion and using it to bend magic to your will. Just as has been mentioned in the HP books, underaged wizards will sometimes do magic accidentally when they have particularly strong surges of emotion, like fear and anger. This school of magic teaches witches and wizards to draw from those emotions to create magic without using spellcasting. This sort of magic yields stronger results, since raw emotion is a powerful thing, but the drawback is that it is much harder to control. Anger, for instance, is particularly powerful but hard to keep under control. Applicants to this major are chosen very carefully by the staff. It takes a wizard with incredible control of his emotions to become a successful cordimancer(chaos mage).

Aegimancy

The school of defensive magic. Students in this school learn defensive spells to protect against attacks, sort of like the Defense Against the Dark Arts class in HP on a much larger scale. Not only do students learn defensive spells, they also learn charms, potions, transfiguration, and other methods to protect themselves. Though the major is focused on defense, it is also important to learn and recognize what you will be guarding yourselves against, so the students would also learn offensive spells and charms.

Incantomancy

The school of charms and enchantments. This school covers some of the same material covered in Aegimancy, but also includes a much wider scope. Whereas Aegimancy is geared towards mortal protection, Incantomancy is concerned with all sorts of charms for any number of tasks, including solving real-world problems. Students in this major would learn things like bewitching objects to do menial tasks, or protection charms like the sort of things done to protect muggles from finding out about the wizarding world (Rowling always talks about the sort of protective magic put on things like the Quidditch World Cup grounds, or Hogwarts itself). Students will also learn about the mechanics of charms themselves so that they might be able to create their own.

Medeomancy

The school of curative and support spellcraft. Students entering this major would be the type to go to work in wizarding hospitals, or possibly even work with a team of aurors in case something were to happen to them and they need medical attention. In some regards, they are similar to aegimancers, but the major difference is that a medeomancer's job is to deal with what happens to a person when an aegimancer fails to protect them. Think Madam Pomfrey, or any of the people working at St. Mungo's.


Anyway, that's all I've got right now. I haven't even written anything about uniforms, though I feel art would be more appropriate for that. I've got some ideas on them, however, I just need to draw them up. But that's it for now.

Hope this hasn't been too dreadfully boring.
 
 
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Ra-chan[info]rachan on August 9th, 2005 01:31 pm (UTC)
YEESSS!!!! It was I that suggested the idea of creating an American wizarding school system to you, as I remember talking about it quite nerdily... and I'm super excited to see that you've come up with some damn good ideas! I totally agree with the college-esque school system, although I would say that students shouldn't get put into majors until AFTER third year, because, well, after second year, you're only 12-13, so you'd have even less of an idea of who you are than 13-14. Well, here's a couple more ideas from my end, if you don't mind.. I love brainstorming this stuff with you, as you know! :D

Firstly, as America is huge, I think there should be more than one school.. maybe like, 2 in the U.S., 1 in mid or southern Canada, and 1 in Central America/Mexico, but national boundaries are no matter for any student in North and Central America, so you could send your kid to whatever school you liked best, OR the school would be chosen for you, either by proximity or by some characteristic in the student (Perhaps all of North and Central America's magical community would be under one government). For your majors, they look pretty good, but you should add something that includes mystical fields like Divination, empathic magic, astrology, nature spirit power kinda stuff and other things that haven't really been made up yet, but you know what I mean. I think the schools should be in rural locations that are difficult to get to by muggle means (put one in Wyoming, there's nobody there anyway), but it might be cool if one was hidden in a city (sure are a lot of shitty condemned buildings in Detroit that might secretly be something.. ;p or a secret wizarding school in NY would be bad ass). Ooh, dude, the Central american/Mexican school should be on a hidden island in the gulf, cause that'd be sweet.

Also one of the main things I was thinking that'd be cool about making American wizarding schools, is that many things could be based off of Native American magic/myths.. we'd still have the European magic too, since that's where whitey came from.. so you could make a really cool mix, and it would be very different from Hogwarts. One would have to study up on Native myths (I don't know much on those), but there are probably a lot of magical creatures and characters that could be tapped into for the creation and art/design of these schools. Also a fun thing to think about - I remember brief mention of other wizarding sports in other countries, like JK said Quidditch was not popular in every country.. so that could be more cool stuff to invent. Anyway, let me know what you think of these ideas.. yours got me rolling, so I just had to. ^^ Woo nerdiness!
Kieran[info]maragdus on August 9th, 2005 03:06 pm (UTC)
Ooooooh... Excellent ideas!

Yeah, I was actually on the fence on when to have the students choose their major. I didn't want to wait for too long to have them choose, but now that you mention it it does make more sense for them to wait until fourth year. 12-13 is a bit young.

I agree with your placing of schools, too. I think one of the US schools should be on the West coast and one on the East. And, to give kids a variety, I think the one on in the West should be totally rural (Wyoming's a really good idea) and the one in the East should be hidden in a city. The native American myths is another excellent idea I hadn't even considered. But if one of the schools is in a city on the East coast, I think it would be more influenced by the myths/history of settling Europeans. The school on the West coast, however, would be completely influenced by Native American myths. I really don't know any of these, so it might be something worth researching.

The school in Mexico would then be influenced by Mayan/Incan myths, and Canada... well... I dunno what they'd be influenced by. Molson Ice beer and hockey myths? hehehe... Juuuust kidding.

Oh yeah, and that list of majors was definitely just a start. Feel free to add to it. I was pretty sure I hadn't covered everything, but those were the majors I could think of right away.

Now as for the sport... wow, I'm gonna have to think a lot about that one. I'll have to get back to you on that!
Ra-chan[info]rachan on August 9th, 2005 07:00 pm (UTC)
Tim Horton's School of Witchcraft and Wizardry. Simple as that. Hehehe

Well, I was thinking the whole Native thing could just kind of be an element throughout all of the American wizarding community, not necessarily a uber-main-theme. Plus, to a mild degree, many of the Native cultures had some similar stories/creatures and they spread through Canada as well. I was sort of inspired because I saw a show on the History Channel called the Quest for Dragons and they were showing how all these different cultures shared similar ideas of dragons; for instance, the first Mexican native culture was the Olmec, and they had this dragon diety, which the Mayas also had (Quetzelcoatl) and even many Native American Indian tribes like the Hopi also had a plumed serpent dragon creature that was nearly the same as Quetzelcoatl. That was the most disjointed and poorly worded description ever, but my main feeling I'm trying to get across was that all of North America seems to share its lore, much like Britain and France share mythologies.

Dude.. we're gonna like.. make the schools.. and we'll be like.. "I go to it".. and people will be like "sweet" and we'll be like "you don't get to go, you fat squibby bastard" and Harry Potter will transfer 'cause he decided its way cooler than Hogwarts, which gets messed up all the time. Sweet.
[info]taomab on August 13th, 2005 06:08 pm (UTC)
I am really surprised you did not include South America in this American Wizarding school system. The Incas in Peru were a huge civilization, but people seem to completely neglect them. Brazil is also a huge country and could have several wizards and witches too. Plus, most countries in South America (especially Brazil) and the islands in the Caribbean, have a larger population of people of African descent, which would mean they have a great tradition of African magic as well. So just think about the mix there, Native/African/European traditions all mixed together.
And also, people reach adulthood by the age of 18 in Central and South American countries so I guess it would be more similar to European schools in that sense.
Kieran[info]maragdus on August 23rd, 2005 06:01 pm (UTC)
I guess when I spoke of an "American" wizarding school I really meant "North American." I figured that South America would be counted as an entirely different region altogether. As you mentioned, the countries are huge and have a very diverse population, so I figured that they would have their own school system entirely apart from the Northern American ones. Since I don't know much about South American history and culture, I was focusing more on what I do know.
j3ssm3ss[info]j3ssm3ss on August 9th, 2005 04:19 pm (UTC)
i cant believe i read all of that!
buuuut, as i am opinionated- i dont think the RAs for the underclassmen should be a first year upper classman. cause if they lived with the older underclassmen the year before, there could be respect issues. Just give them some creature as an RA. I don't know any like you do, but a house dwarf or something.
Plus what about middle america? put a school there too where people can do farm magic if they want. i dont know what that is, but there are farms in middle america.
dont tell ANYBODY i said this stuff
Kieran[info]maragdus on August 9th, 2005 05:19 pm (UTC)
You can READ?!?!

hehe... ANYway, I agree that there would probably be respect issues with 4th year RAs, but I don't think that that would be a big enough factor to prevent them from being RAs. After all, any student in a role where they have power over other students will cause respect issues. I think the 4th years would do the best job because they've been at the school long enough to know the rules and how things work, but they still are young enough to associate with how the 1st through 3rd years are feeling. Think about how it works at Hogwarts: the 5th year students become prefects, yet they are still living with the students they had lived with the year before. Surely jealousy and respect issues arise, but they are not big enough to cause any major problems.

As for a third school in America, I think the two would work out well enough. Even though there are a lot of people in America, not all of them would be witches and wizards. Besides, there are also schools in Canada and Mexico/Central America. If 3 schools covered everyone in Europe, then I think 4 schools could cover Canada, America and Mexico.
iwonder87[info]iwonder87 on August 9th, 2005 04:34 pm (UTC)
Wow, this is amazing lol... I would just think that it would be kinda like X-Men, in the sense that you would be in the upper New York Area in a mansion size house that would be somewhat converted into a school...
m@[info]archas on August 10th, 2005 01:20 am (UTC)
It would be interesting, from an historical standpoint, to see how the magic school system (which would obviously have been imported to America from Europe) would have evolved over time...Americanized. I have the feeling it'd be a much more informal atmosphere over here. And how would priorities change as well?

Also interesting to think about corresponding government branches. No Ministry of Magic over here...would there be a secret member of the President's cabinet to keep him apprised? And British heads of government always seem so pragmatic...how would someone like President Bush handle the Secretary of Magic coming through his fireplace?

Betcha' the US schools are starting to have quidditch at this point, but American teams probably aren't all that good...

Fun stuff...heh. Remind me to talk urban fantasy with you the next time I see you. I've been working on this urban occult piece for a few years, now, and I've done some fun research we can talk about...
Kieran[info]maragdus on August 10th, 2005 04:13 pm (UTC)
It'd be interesting to see someone like Bush deal with someone from the magical world. I'd imagine someone would be hidden in his cabinet, like you said, sort of the way Kingsley Shacklebolt is embedded in the PM's office in HP.

And yeah, I agree, quidditch would have made the jump a while ago, but it probably isn't as popular over here and the teams that are interested aren't nearly as good. I see it as kind of the like the magical equivalent of soccer; it just hasn't caught on here as well.

I'd love to see your urban occult stuff whenever I can make it down there next. I should be able to get down there some time this month, hopefully, so we'll see how that goes.
[info]taomab on August 13th, 2005 06:13 pm (UTC)
Have you ever thought about an Asian wizarding school system? It'd be really cool to see the differences between East, South East, and South Asians. Also, a Middle Eastern school would be interesting as well. And an African... Man your idea is awesome. You should really expand it.
Kieran[info]maragdus on August 23rd, 2005 06:04 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I've definitely thought about schools in other regions of the world. I know a little bit more about Eastern culture than I do about most others, so I've thought a little bit more about that particular region. But, as you can see, there's a lot that goes into brainstorming one region, let alone all of them, so for right now I've just been thinking about the North American schools.

I'm surprised that no one else has written spin-off books based on this concept, like all those books you see written in the Star Wars universe. They have billions of those books.
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